any platform zusi that is at -- i've heard from a lot of you there. so ari melber.com, or tele-, is it good, is these new cases, will the trials be televised? thank you for spending the hour with us here at the beach with ari melber. please keep it locked on msnbc. >> thanks for joining us this hour, really happy to have you with us. so, it was four years, ago 2019, late august, it was a sunny day. a nice day to be outside at lunchtime. lots of people were. in germany, and central berlin, there is a nice park, a nice big urban park near the german -- white house, near the federal chancellery which is where the german chancellor lives and house offices. this park is called the -- and it is very fancy. lots of trees, fancy buskers,

sculptures, there is a big children's playground. it is big. it is about seven acres in the heart of central berlin. and four years ago, on august 23rd 2019, a man road into the park on this black mountain bike. the man had long black hair, and neat beard. he was wearing ray vance and a great hoodie, and had a backpack on. and he cycled over by the swing set by the park. he reached into his backpack, and he pulled out a lock 26 which is a nine millimeter pistol that had -- from his mountain bike, he then used that to shoot a man who was walking in the park, shot the man in the back who fell to the ground. the man on the bike then got off his bike and walked over to who he just shot, and as that man lay there on the ground in

the park, the man from the bike shot him two more times. both shots into the man's head. a very professional hit man kind of hit, right next to the swing set in that park right at midday on a sunny friday in august. in a packed city park in front of all the kids at the playground. he shot and he got once in the back, fell, got off his bike, go over to, him chime twice in the head. this is just down the block from the german chancellor's office. with his target of laying that on the ground shot three times, the man with a gun got back on the mountain bike and rode away. here is how the wall street journal describes what he did next. quote, with his target laying dead near the children's playground, the assassin hop on his bike and peddled away. he stopped at the nearby river,

change out of his, closed and peeled off a week revealing a bald head. he hurled his disguise, and his bicycle, and his pistol, and silencer into the, water into the river. he then shaved off part of his beard with an electric razor, they're on the side of the river. he did that. he is wearing a wig, he has a change of clothes with him, he has the electric razor with him to change the look of his beard, takes off the, whip changes his clothes, uses the razor. he then puts the gun and silencer and bike in the river, okay, but wait, that is his transportation. once you throw the bicycle in the river, how will he keep moving? well, further planning, he had also stashed an electric scooter nearby on the riverbank. it was while he was trying to get away, in this new disguise, with the newly trimmed beard on the electric scooter, that the police were actually able to

get him. the unprofessional part of this other was very professional hit, apparently the guy did not notice that to people, to passersby had seen him in this part of the operation on the side of the river. they saw him take off the whip, throw the gun, the disguising the, river saw him changes clothing. those two people thought that was weird enough, that even though they had not witnessed the shooting, they called police about this bizarre behavior by the riverbank. that is how police got him. but then once police had him in custody, they started a new saga. they had no idea who he was. this guy had no i.d., and all he would tell them over and over again, wasn't obviously. he kept saying he was just a random tourist, had nothing to do with any of this. the wall street journal also describes how finally, after two years, investigators were able to piece together his

identity and what brought him to that park that sunny friday in august. they were able to piece as identity thanks to his russian special forces tattoos, thanks to his fake brand new issued passport, thanks to investigators like bellingcat with -- prosecutors made their case that this guy, the guy on the mountain bike, was fsb. fsb, what used to be the kgb, russian security services. specifically, they made the case he was in the part of the fsb that changes trained russian government hitmen all over the world to other countries to carry out assassinations on order. in court, they even presented a video of this guy killing someone else, the exact same way. riding up to a guy on a, bike shooting the guy in the back, and in the head. a different killing from years earlier. the german court ultimately

ruled in 2021 that the bicycle riding hitman had committed that murder in the park in berlin, that the court also concluded that the murder had been commissioned, had been ordered by the russian government. the victim in this case, the park in berlin, it was a chutkan man who had applied for asylum in germany, saying he needed to leave the former soviet sphere because the russian security services had asylum in germany. it turns out he was right about the russian government wanting to assassinate, him and that being a real risk. what he was wrong, about the idea that germany, being in germany could protect them from that. whether or not you remember this exact broad daylight kids playground swing set adjacent criminals assassination, in a

western capital in 2019, you probably remember some of the other things like this. they start to blend together after there have been a bunch of them. the ear before the german park mountain bike hit man, there was the -- assassination attempt. do you remember that one? the nerve agent assassination by russian agents in england. russian agents in that one just missed killing their target on the daughter, but did kill a random british citizen at the wrong place at the wrong time. before that, it was russian agents with the radio active poisoning plot, a failed radioactive dose of -- in london. you might remember just in june, the sum of the new york times reported on another plot by agents to try and assassinate a guy in the united states in miami. that plot was disrupted, but the justice department explicitly named the russian

government as directing that operation and the biden administration picked up ten russian diplomats from this country in retaliation. there is so many of these things that blend together. apparently they have whole section of the fsb that is just for sending russian government hitman to other countries all over the world to carry out criminal assassinations. among the many fine and patco accomplishments of the putin government in russia, one of the things they do all the time is send professional men all over the world to assassinate people in broad daylight, city parks, city streets, department stores, parking lots. and then, when their hitmen get caught, the russian government takes hostages. they take foreign hostages in russia. which is why, in 2019 -- swing set assassination is back in the news today, back in the pages of the wall street journal today. because, the latest american

hostage, the latest innocent american hostage taken by the russian government's wall street journal reporter, a young man named evan gershkovich, as the wall street journal puts in their headline, now, putin wants his hitmen back. meaning, the kremlin is now signaling, if the united states wants to ever get evan gershkovich, if the united states wants to get this innocent american reporter hostage out of russia, or maybe some other western hostage or american hostages they are holding, maybe u.s. veteran marine paul whelan, if the u.s. ever once any of those people, back then the kremlin is now signaling they want some kind of trade that will give them back the swings that mountain bike assassin from berlin. they want their russian special forces fsb hitmen out of prison in germany. not because he did not assassinate it guy in broad daylight in a public part in germany, but because they asked him to do it.

he was just doing his job for the russian government. now they would like him back. so they will take american hostages, in order to get him back. it is not even like dealing with a country, it is like dealing with a drug gang, a cartel, or some sadistic mob boss. this is how they do things. we have the berlin assassin from 2019 back in the news right now, because maybe russia wants to trade him for the american reporter they took hostage in march. somebody end up with cement shoes here, swimming with the fishes, right, are we checking each other for switchblades in our boots. i mean, this is international relations? this is diplomacy? this is how you do it? we also have viktor bout back in the news. at the same time, right now, victor bout the international gunrunner known internationally

for his mustache, and nickname, the merchant of death. to get him back, russia took wnba star brittney griner hostage. february of last, year helped brittney griner in prison in russia for ten months. they only released her -- in exchange for viktor bout being let out and back to russia. now that they're hostage maneuver without young american woman, that american athlete, now that that worked to spring viktor bout from prison. viktor bout is apparently now going to go into politics in russia. we learned this this weekend. the new york times. viktor bout will be a real star in russian politics, will make him a real asset to putin's dictatorship. the weapon smuggler to terrorist groups. that is the kind of hero russia needs. it is just like an acute toxicity.

there are lots of bad governments in the world. lots of bad leaders. lots and lots of bad governments. but, this is the difference between a scratch, and a stabbing. what putin is doing something special. it is something acutely deliberately toxic. all right, it is not a stomach ache. it is food poisoning. in russia, tennis, ago putin has decided to declare that the winner of the nobel peace prize dimitri muratov, the winner of the nobel peace prize in 2021, putin has just declared he is a foreign agent, making literally illegal for anyone to work with them in russia. making a crime to work with him. what is foreign agent about him? what is so even criminal about him? he is a newspaper editor. his newspaper has already been chased out of russia and the

threat of prison -- or worse -- but why wouldn't he? what would a nobel peace prize stop him? putin is on a doctor evil high at the moment. apparently pumped after what appears to have been the plane crash assassination of the war lord he cultivated to force russian prisoners to fight against their will in ukraine. a man who at the time of his death was under federal criminal indictment in the united states for his alleged role in helping carrying out the kremlin's attack on 2016 presidential election to mess with american democracy, to try to make americans hate and distrust each other more than we already do, and not incidentally to try to get a particularly pro putin candidate donald trump into the u.s. white house. he is on a high. that assassination, that opened assassination. today, putin is preparing to host a leader of a neighboring country who's reportedly going to start supplying russia with a whole new stream of weapons

and munitions to use against the people of ukraine. the armoured train would seem to leave pyongyang, and now putin will be hosting in russia the autocratic got dictator of nuclear on north korea. because, the north korean dictator is the kind of guy who rightfully speaks as language these days. and really, what better ally could you hope for when you are looking to scale up the largest land war in europe since hitler started invading his neighbors and kicked off what were two 84 years ago. all right, who would make him better ally looking to scale up the terror? against the civilian population in europe unprovoked invasion of a neighboring sovereign democratic state which you invaded to punish the grave crime of existing? what better alliance can you imagine to steal up the war, and take sides together against the country put in more states in the world, which of course is a, the united states.

that is kind of the smell of things in russia right now. that is the vibe from that particular, government from that particular leader. and so, what is elon musk doing with them? the walter isaacson much hyped biography of elon musk that comes out tomorrow, include a story about the ukrainian military planning to launch an attack on russian navy ships in port in crimea. and, per mr. isaacson's account, elon musk personally took action to make sure the ukrainian military would not be able to do that. mr. mask, making sure that the ukrainian military could not use his starlink satellite internet network, which is what ukraine uses for conductivity on the battlefield, to advance the operation. he got personally involved to make sure ukraine has its hands tied in battle. that was --

mr. isakson's biography, first reported by the economist in october. then, last month, in the new yorker, reporter -- reported more detail about how elon musk has been stopping ukrainian forces from using this crucial supply line from using starlink in kherson, and zaporizhzhia, and kharkiv, and donetsk, and luhansk. musk has been geofencing all of those places in ukraine, fencing those places are from the starlings that light network, deliberately to hamstring the u.s. military, deliberately to stop ukraine defending its territory in this war against russia after russia -- so, i mean, not to get too simple here, but mr. musk's american, he is an american citizen. and, it is the explicit out loud not all hidden, totally

overt, totally emphatic policy of the united states government to support ukraine in its war against russia after russia invaded them. we provide ukraine our ally, lots of military aid, and training, and intelligence, and all sorts of assistance. they are our ally. but, there is this one american private citizen who is intervening to try and stop ukraine from winning the war. to try and stop ukraine from defending itself against this russian invasion. trying to stop, it and in fact stopping it, by turning their communication lines on and off a wheel as easy street, or as someone sees fit. here is the crucial thing. if mr. isaacson's -- mr. fails reporting for the new yorker, the thing that stands out is this. here is the quote from water as extends book about elon musk intervening in the war to stop

ukraine from its attack on russian ships on moscow musk made that decision, quote, he had just spoken to the russian ambassador. he just spoke to the russian ambassador, then he made the decision to cut ukraine's supply lines, so they could not fight russia. here is how he described musk's own description of who he was talking to. when the pentagon intervened to try and fix this problem, tried to get him to stop messing with ukraine supply lines, try to get him to stop messing with ukraine's ability to fight off the russian military. this is what the new york wrote in this reporting. to the dismay of pentagon officials, musk volunteered that he had spoken with putin personally. another individual told me, meaning told pharaoh, that he had made the same assertion his spoken with -- in the weeks before he tweeted his pro russia peace plan.

musk said, his consultations with the kremlin were regular. musk later denied having spoken with putin about ukraine. on the phone, musk said, he was looking at his laptop and could see, quote, the entire war unfolding from the map of starlink activity. this was three minutes before he said, i had this great conversation with putin. a senior defense official told me, we were like oh dear, this is not good. it is important that this one middle aged red peeled right wing billionaire has taken on one of the world's major social networks, and turned into a fire hose of toxic and systematic and pro not the content. now publicly blaming the jews for the financial woes of the company, while president using his power and public profile to

boast and validate literally self-declared antisemites, white nationalists, or now the loudest influences on network. when that is an important thing. it also seems important that the u.s. space program, and it's infinite wisdom decided to make itself dependent on this same one guy for much of its important ongoing work. as space becomes more and more important, to american national security. we but, given the role of russia in the world today. given who they are and how they are conducting themselves these days, given the place russia has in -- given the place of russia in relation to america's place in the world today, how is it possible that it is the russian government that is reportedly advising this one -- the single most supply line for the military in the country

when that is our ally. this is an american citizen reportedly taking advice from the russian government about how to make sure america's ally loses this war against russia. we how is this happening? we and, how is it possible the united states government is basically a bystander here, on this sunny day, on the swing set, joining us now is pulitzer prize-winning journalist my friend -- investigative reporter and contributing writer for the new yorker, is recently published based on the subject for the new yorker is called elon musk's sat shadow rule, thank you very much for making time tonight. i appreciate it. >> thank you for having me, rachel. >> first, let me ask you, if i have characterized your reporting correctly, i know both you and mr. isaacson and the economist, and some other

people have got into different pieces of this. what i see is sort of the same, story i characterize the reporting accurately, did you see at the way i presented it? >> you did, and i always respect how you gave viewers the time and everybody who contributed to the understanding, and pointed out the financial times as what is happening, doing leading reporting about the outages in terms of coverage on the ukrainian front lines. my talks do not just the official -- but ukrainian soldiers on the ground, and the experience, personally, of being shocked as -- critical areas of russia attempting to seize control, and as they lost the ability for commanders to communicate with troops. so you know, there are varying opinions about how that contributed to -- but everyone around us seems to agree, what happened is as -- there was a consequence for people on the ground. >> i want to talk specifically

about mr. musk's communications with the russian government. as you point out in the new yorker, there's, right there is nothing illegal about an american private citizen talking to a foreign government, that it is not exactly illegal for american private citizens to conduct their own foreign policy contradictory to the u.s. foreign policy. we are sort of in that, within those bounds i think a little bit and trying to figure this out. you reported that mr. musk has had direct conversations with russian officials, we have seen mr. musk post very obviously pro-russian propaganda after these conversations. you connect that communication, apparently mr. isakson connects that communication as well in time to mr. musk's decision to cut off the critical communications access from the ukrainian military. what do you understand about his communication with russia? >> it is pretty straightforward here, we have evidence of that. elon musk very much likes to

identify problems in the world, and swoop in and try to solve them. there's a lot of upside to that. nasa's reliance on him is also an antidote to a situation where we had no way to launch american astronauts into space, unless the russians launched for us. so there are positives to this. however on the ukraine case, he stepped, in tweeted ukrainian officials saying starlink is on the way, then the ensuing months, i think he clocked the price tag of this, so pragmatic concern, and appears to have been an ideological shift in other settings, and as you say eventually on twitter he started for instance burning a public peace plans that recorded exactly with what the russians wanted. referendums that might redraw the lines in favor of russia. he started tweeting out information the russians often point to. namely, areas around ukraine's border in which the local population they like to say we prefer russian rule. that is something that is

apparent. so we see all of this that is public facing and we have the effect for multiple people now that he was in many conversations in appeals with russian officials and at least one of the volodymyr putin himself. later as you point out, he denied that. that seems to be the case. he decided a paragraph where there are unnamed individuals. i would point out there is on the record people -- like senior defense official who is respected, is on the record in this piece talking about the conversation you mention, in which elon musk is watching that map, and saying i talk to vladimir putin, not another time as his, claimed not about unrelated, thing very clearly about this in this timeframe. >> well, the other thing that is so unnerving about that section of your reporting. it is just the idea of what mr. musk describes on the phone, he says he was looking at his laptop, and could, see quote, the entire war unfolding through a map of starlink

activity. so if you have anybody in the, world i don't care what nationality, but if you have somebody who is saying that he is having direct conversations with vladimir putin, who is saying according to lots of reporting that he is talking to the russian government regularly, and senior officials in the russian government, and his simultaneously has access to information that shows in his words the entire war unfolding, in terms of what the ukrainian government is, doing what ukrainian units are doing all over the active war zone, it is a very very dangerous potential conduit of information in terms of the conduct of the war. that is the biggest intelligence risk you could possibly imagine in terms of whether or not you can will of her be able to win this thing. >> needless to say, rachel, this is a grave concern to ukrainians, to american defense officials watching this. trying to advance american interests in the region, you mention, that regardless of the legal lines, it is a peak

phenomenon, potentially a problem of -- like this. elon musk does have many parts of the state now. he goes on diplomatic missions. he has these awkward smiling handshake with foreign officials, chinese officials that we usually associate with elected officials. and we have american officials treating him like an elected official, because his powers unavoidable in these areas. elon musk is also a good lens -- because there is a lot of good he, does there is a lot of -- what we see erratic behavior, we see how as you, mentioned in the radicalism has displayed on twitter, he does have a tendency to absorb a new views that he did not dispose previously very rapidly. and he is also an individual whose buffeted by headwinds of incentives around his businesses and where they operate, that are not always aligned with american interests. so for instance, half of all tesla vehicles are produced in a shanghai factory. that has to be in diplomatic

conversations with beijing. and, he is a fairly transparent guy in some ways. it is not clear that all of his team surrounds him is accurate like the -- however, he talks about it a lot. he quotes in interviews with the financial times on, this and comes out and says, i talk to the chinese, they are mad about me giving internet access in ukraine. remember, the chinese are backed russians in this conflict. and, they are fearful of that internet technology -- so, he has dealt with blow back from the ukrainians, because of his unique geopolitical position, and that does underscore how dangerous it is to concentrate all of this power in the hands of private billionaires with their own interests. >> right, and it raises interest of whether he is being pressured and advised by the chinese and russians, what is the relationship of the u.s. government to him, particularly when he is conducting effectively foreign policy against the interest of -- the state of u.s. policy.

pulitzer prize-winning journalist, thank you for this reporting, thank you for talking with us about the tie. it is good to see you. >> thanks for all you do, rachel. >> all right, thanks. much more ahead tonight, stay with us. with us. being me. keep being you... and ask your healthcare provider about the number one prescribed h-i-v treatment, biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in many people whether you're 18 or 80. with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to undetectable—and stay there whether you're just starting or replacing your current treatment. research shows that taking h-i-v treatment as prescribed and getting to and staying undetectable prevents transmitting h-i-v through sex. serious side effects can occur, including kidney problems and kidney failure. rare, life-threatening side effects include a buildup of lactic acid and liver problems. do not take biktarvy if you take dofetilide or rifampin. tell your healthcare provider about all the medicines and supplements you take, if you are pregnant or breastfeeding, or if you have kidney or liver problems, including hepatitis. if you have hepatitis b do not stop taking biktarvy

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gerrymandering project, a very forgettable name, i'm sorry. it does something very simple, you look at political maps from around the country, a district lines for congress and state legislature and look at the maps for how wealthy lines create competitive elections, whether they give one side an unfair advantage over the other side, and look at the map sort fairness, and then give them a letter grade like the great you get in school. in the great state of wisconsin, where the districts were drawn by the republican legislature, the state house maps get an f, same for the wisconsin state senate, maps those also get an f. for failure. the failure for wisconsin democracy in those maps. it translates into a win for wisconsin republicans, the bottom line with those maps is that even one way more people in wisconsin vote for democrats, republicans win most of the seats anyway. it is a nice trick. wisconsin voters appear to be

just about fed up with this, consider what happened this year when they voted for a new state supreme court justice. liberal candidate shannon -- told voters the wisconsin maps are wrong. she called the maps rigged, she said they do not reflect people in the state. voters heard that message, and they picked janet by a margin of 11 points, a resounding margin. her victory created a liberal majority on the wisconsin supreme court for the first time in 15 years. with a huge win. and so, wisconsin republicans freaked, out before she hears a single case on the supreme court, republicans are threatening to impeach her. a majority vote in the house to impeach, or they have, that they would need a two thirds majority in the senate to remove, her a two thirds majority, which they also have. when's conson democrats are not launching a 4 million dollar ad campaign to alert wisconsin

voters, a 4 million dollar campaign to elect wisconsin voters to what the republicans are, doing to what the republican plan is for this new justice, that the voters in the state just elected by such a resounding margin. the chair of the state democratic party told the national press this, week quote, the longer they push this forward, the more political price we want to bill for republicans in the legislature, and -- this could become a fireball that it's all of them up through 2024. joining us now is the chair of those wisconsin democratic partly. it is nice to see you, thank you for being here. >> thank you so much, rachel. >> the thing that i think is, even if you don't know anything about wisconsin politics, the thing i think is shocking from the outside, the size of her victory in that statewide election, and the immediate move to remove her anyway even before she has done anything as a judge. how is this being viewed inside the state? >> there is no more fundamental

american value with other freedom to choose our own leaders. so when wisconsinites find out a group of politicians led their -- republican speaker of our state assembly, are threatening to overturn the last election, just to lock in their own power and prevent the public from choosing who leads the state, there are outraged. they have been flooded with calls, people are donating left and right, and more critically, they are calling republicans in the state legislature to tell them, not to do this. do not cross this line and throw out and the race 3 million votes that took place just a few months ago. it is shocking. and this is a moment when everyone needs to weigh in, to stop with the gop from essentially undermining the entire system of democracy in our state, and creating a precedent that gives -- >> as i mentioned, ben, the republicans do on paper or have the votes to do this. they certainly have a majority in the, house and in the senate,

basically exactly as far as i understand, it what that means is they have the votes to do it, but with zero margin. meaning any defect or some of this, plan it won't work. are any republicans visibly getting a little nervous or wobbly about this? >> yes indeed. so now that the public is finding out about this plot, and the democratic party of wisconsin we set up a website that defend justice.com, with a score card. if you go, there you will see we have our first republican state representative who came out publicly, and said no, he would vote against impeachment. we have a few that have told constituents they are against, or they haven't said publicly, and we have a whole bunch that are saying nothing about their position. our sense is they realize that this is a total political disaster for them. and even if they successfully impeach a supreme court justice to lock in their power which has never happened before, in, wisconsin or anywhere else, there is never been a purely political impeachment. even if they did, that voters

would eventually have a final say. so they need to step back from this brink, and quite frankly, the bill they are proposing is against the -- so they have a pretty good exit ramp, they can just say they looked at, it it does not meet the standard of the constitution that's out, they are done. if they do not do, that they are going to have to answer to voters for the rest of their political lives. >> ben wikler, chair of the wisconsin democratic party, ben, i know this is a hard fight in your state right now. thank you for keeping us up to date. appreciate it. >> thank you so much. >> all right, we will be right, back stay with us. back stay with us. ld water, on those stains? ♪♪ cold water can't clean tough stains? i'd say that myth is busted. turn to cold, with tide. i'm kareem abdul jabbar. i was diagnosed with afib. the first inkling that something was wrong was i started to notice that i couldn't do things without losing my breath. i couldn't make it through the airport,

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tonight good news, that today the fbi approved an updated covid-19 booster shot. just in time for the new uptick in covid cases that we are experiencing now, and just in

time for the rollout of the seasonal vaccines like shot you get for the flu, or rsv, they have now for infants and people over age 60. so be on the lookout, tomorrow the advisory committee will meet tomorrow to give the final step on who qualifies for the new covid booster. the fda has approved it as of tonight, that is going to do it for us for now. >> tonight on ayman, breaking reaction for president minus free impeachment inquiry and how damaging this could be for the republicans 2024 chances. plus, democrats months for fighting back after speaking with -- of the house oversight committee. and then, fani willis's case live and in color, the critical importance of broadcasting this week's hearings in the georgia election trial. i'm ayman mohyeldin, let's get started. all right, tonight there ew